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Baaad News! :-(

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:10 pm
by biz
FINAL CITY NAVIGATOR® EUROPE NT MAPPING UPDATE FOR YOUR GARMIN DEVICE
The July 2024 release will be the last update available for customers with City Navigator Europe NT maps.

Re: Baaad News! :-(

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:04 pm
by Iris
I guess “Life Time” maps doesn’t mean YOUR life time (the customer), it means the life time of the maps. :-(

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Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:22 pm
by sussamb
No, it's as defined by Garmin and has been for years:

Lifetime Maps
If you purchase a nüMaps Lifetime subscription (sold separately or bundled together with certain GPS models), you will receive map updates when and as such updates are made available on the Garmin website during the useful life of 1 compatible Garmin product or as long as Garmin receives map data from a third party supplier, whichever is shorter. A product’s “useful life” means the period during which the product (a) has sufficient memory capacity and other required technical capabilities to utilize current map data and (b) is capable of operating as intended without major repairs. A product will be deemed to be out of service and its useful life to be ended if no updates have been downloaded for such product for a period of 24 months or more. Unless otherwise stated, the updates you receive under the subscription will be updates to the same geographic area included with your Garmin product when originally purchased. Third party content providers may change. In some instances, your Garmin product might not have sufficient memory remaining for you to load an update to the map data, in which case you will need to either (a) select reduced map data coverage for your updates, or (b) purchase separately a microSD™/SD™ card (if and as applicable to your Garmin product) and load all or a portion of the map data coverage for your updates to the card and insert the card into the microSD/SD card slot contained in your Garmin product. If neither of the measures in (a) or (b) can be used to address your product’s lack of sufficient remaining memory, then Garmin may conclude that the “useful life” of your product has expired. Garmin may terminate your nüMaps Lifetime subscription at any time if you violate any of the terms of this agreement or your subscription. Your nüMaps Lifetime subscription may not be transferred to another Garmin product.

Re: Baaad News! :-(

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:05 pm
by biz
Hmmmm.... I don't believe the 590 or 595 has reached the end of it's "Useful life" though. It does not fit with any of that description.

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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:20 pm
by Scarecrow
Looks like Tom Tom may be getting some business
I'm not going to try and plan routes on a Mobile phone (Tread App)

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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:33 pm
by lkraus
Don't panic.

Our first automotive GPS was a TomTom without lifetime maps. We used it regularly for thirteen years without a single map update and had no issues. My wife slowly abandoned it for Google Maps on her phone just because it was more convenient, not because of the old map. Roads really do not change all that quickly.

If Garmin has declared your GPS "dead", you can make it a useful zombie by using free OSM maps.

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Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:55 pm
by Oop North John
biz wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:05 pm Hmmmm.... I don't believe the 590 or 595 has reached the end of it's "Useful life" though. It does not fit with any of that description.
590 and 595 use the NTU maps, i.e. still current:

https://www.garmin.com/en-GB/p/145273#maps

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Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:20 pm
by wks
Hi all the 550 uses NT maps. Does that mean there is one last update? only there has been no updates for ages

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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:44 am
by kernowing
wks wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:20 pm Hi all the 550 uses NT maps. Does that mean there is one last update? only there has been no updates for ages
My 660 is only a slightly more recent model than your 550. I just looked on Express and there's a 2025.10 version of the NT maps available to install.
Have a look on Express, maybe there's an update there for your 550.

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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:40 am
by Tiga1050
Apologies if I'm asking a dumb question but: -
Are NT maps and NTU maps two different things?
If they are, is it reasonable to assume that updates for NTU maps (as installed on my DriveSmart 65) will continue?
Tnx