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electro_handyman wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:08 pm I gather that the Cardio uses an app on the phone for configuration, I don't have that with the Sena.
yup, the Cardo app for the phone is called Cardo Connect App, its a free app download and it's for configuring the Cardo headset settings, I tried to use it to configure headset settings but didn't see anyone on the Cardo Connect App that I wanted to use, but I was very tempted to set up the FM Radio function of the headset, but decided to use my mp3 music files that I put on the sd card in the 396 instead of hearing radio audio... although I might do that FM option later on or maybe I won't do it, dunno yet, I like the idea though of the FM radio function... it's appealing I admit.

to be honest, I am still in the thinking mode on using my phone when riding, I take my phone with me when I ride but I'm still not sure I want to hear from it when I'm riding, actually I prefer to ride alone and also prefer to disconnect from everything on the motorcycle , maybe I can just check my phone at gas stops to see if i got a text message or missed an incoming call, I'm still undecided about the benefits for me to pair phone to the Zumo or phone to headset, and I'm not sure I want to have the microphone on my headset either, 8-) I am such an introvert
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twowheelstom wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:06 pm here i googled which bluetooth device should I pair to my GPS first, my phone or my headset, and Google AI says this

When pairing Bluetooth devices with your GPS, pair the headset to the GPS first, then pair your phone to the GPS. This ensures the GPS processes music, navigation, and notifications, and avoids potential conflicts.
I am surprised that AI was able to come up with a good answer - given all of the rubbish answers that it must have trawled.

Yes - pair your headset to the Zumo first. I have a cardo edge and it has a roller wheel on the side. When it says pairing, it will pair as the first phone, the second phone or a GPS. If I leave the roller allown, it pairs as the first phone. If I roll it back, it pairs as a GPS. If I roll it forward it pairs as the second phone.

I roll it forward so that the GPS is paired as a second phone. That may seem illogical. Two reasons:
1. Using 2nd phone leaves the first phone available for when I need to use the Cardo app in order to make some changes. That way, I don't accidentally overwrite the pairing with the Zumo. I always destroy this pairing when I have finished with the app. I don't want the Zumo connecting to my phone.

2. I pair it as a 2nd phone and not as a GPS becasue the Zumo doesn't act like a GPS. As far as the headset is conecerned it looks like a phone - because all of the phone capabilities have been paired with the Zumo.

Once paired, play some music on Zumo - you mayneed to select the source and you may need to adjust the volume on the mixer, and you might alwo want to check that in the Zumo volume settings, the volume has not been muted.

Then on the Zumo - start a route so that it issues some instructions. Check that you hear them OK. The mixer has different volume levels for navigation, music and for audible beeps.

Then pair your phone to the Zumo. With the headset already paired - it will see the headset as the phone - but the pairing ahs to be done ont he phone itself. Allow it access to whatever it wants.

Once that is done you should have music and headphone cions lit up in the BT settings for your headset. You should have the handset lit up for your BT connection to your phone. Try calling yourself from another phone.

With that done, if you want traffic and text messages etc to come through the the Zumo, you need to download and install the Smartphone Link app. This is produced by Garmin and is free. If you want weather there is a one-off fee of not very much money £3-4 Ditto PhotoLive - but that stopped working on the XT so is probably not worth paying for. It shows images from the traffic cameras at certain junctions.

It takes a little while to set up Smartphone Link - the Zumo and the phone need to be BT together and byt the time you have sorted on out, the other has stopped listening. It also requests a passcode and suggests 0000 or 1234. In fact the passcode is sent to the Zumo and is a 6 digit number which you have to type in.

To access the features of Smartphone Link, you have to use your Garmin account - you might have set one up for your XT.

I've just (eventually) succeeded in reinstalling my Smartphone Link on my old phone to work with my old 595. I kept going back and forth. Once I deleted the BT pairings and started again. That - as it often does - works.

But do the first things first. Get phone calls coming through. Then if you need help - I can (probably) take you through the Smartphone Link set up - or I may have writtne some notes about it at the time. I'll have a look. I don't remember.
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jfheath wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:10 pm
I am surprised that AI was able to come up with a good answer - given all of the rubbish answers that it must have trawled.
about Google AI, i am a bit skeptical about Google AI but I'm beginning to like it, it's not that bad, I get very quick answers 8-) I wonder how it works though, it probably searches through millions of internet data in seconds. I find the technology on AI amazing..
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jfheath wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:10 pm
1. Using 2nd phone leaves the first phone available for when I need to use the Cardo app in order to make some changes. That way, I don't accidentally overwrite the pairing with the Zumo. I always destroy this pairing when I have finished with the app. I don't want the Zumo connecting to my phone.
that's what I had to do, to unpair the phone with the headset, I had paired the phone to headset to use the Cardo Connect App, and then when testing out the headset with Zumo 396 operation, the headset was acting difficult, I think there was a bluetooth confluct on the Spirit headset between bluetooth from the phone and bluetooth from the Zumo, when I unpaired the phone from the headset completely , all worked fine, the only function i see on that Cardo Connect App that I might like is to set up the FM Radio part on the headset, do you use that FM radio option? just wondering
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twowheelstom wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 3:50 pm to be honest, I am still in the thinking mode on using my phone when riding, I take my phone with me when I ride but I'm still not sure I want to hear from it when I'm riding, actually I prefer to ride alone and also prefer to disconnect from everything on the motorcycle , maybe I can just check my phone at gas stops to see if i got a text message or missed an incoming call, I'm still undecided about the benefits for me to pair phone to the Zumo or phone to headset, and I'm not sure I want to have the microphone on my headset either, 8-) I am such an introvert
That mostly describes me, except that my wife is an exceptional pillion companion, and I have found a couple of guys that I enjoy riding with. Still, I really enjoy riding alone. I like having the phone connected for the comfort being notified if a family member is trying to get in touch. I won't have a conversation while riding though.

My Cardo has FM. I tried it. It worked OK. I put music on my XT. It works too. I rarely use either, preferring silence. I consider myself fortunate that I am comfortable in my own head. I last used music to break the monotony of unavoidable hours on a high speed slab, which I do my darndest to avoid.
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what will happen if I pair my phone to my 396? I have the Zumo and headset paired, that's working good, but the phone to Zumo pairing, if the phone rings or i get a text message what happens on the 396?, and if I pair those 2 devices will the Zumo navigation audio or the mp3 music on the 396 card end up going to the phone or to the headset? I don't mind an alert on my Zumo that the phone is ringing or have a text but I'd rather not receive those on the headset, all I wanted on my headset is music from the 396 sd card and Zumo turn notification audio. is pairing my phone to Zumo going to make me happy given all that or will it make me unpair it quickly lol 8-)
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On my setup, the phone rings in my ears, the zumo shows a message and it auto answers. we have a conversation and when they out the phone down the phone is disconnected. For this time all navigation and music stops. It resumes when the call is ended.

But all of that is configurable. On the zumo, bt setting, you can unpair just the phone call part and leave the data connection open. You can probably do something similar on the phone. You can tell it not to auto answer. You can put the phone alert to sleep. My android, if it is in bedtime mode - It doesn't ring. But urgent family issues , if they get no answer and they ring again, then the second call comes through.

FM radio. It will only find a couple of stations and neither of those are ones that I want to listen to. I wish it had digital. I dont use the FM, but I do try it issuing voice commands to the headset every now and then.
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Any chance you'll send me your UGREEN CM596 5.3 bluetooth receiver with 3,5mm headphone jack? I'd like to try it if you've given up on it. I understand that cross-border mailings can be a giant PITA if you don't want to bother.
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rbentnail wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 12:24 am I'd like to try it
I'll need your address
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what I did was remove the Cardo Spirit HD headset unit from my helmet, removed the 40mm speakers I had inside my helmet, plugged the headset unit via USB-C into my portable battery bank for charging, put on my riding vest and put the battery bank into the top pocket of my vest, then put the headset unit into another pocket of my riding vest, put on some earbuds and plugged the 3.5mm jack into the cardo headset unit, put my helmet on, turned on the Zumo 396 and put the 396 4 feet away on my desk, started up mp3 music on the Zumo, and bingo, my new riding setup, all works great, I tried to find a place to click the cardo onto the helmet and ended up clipping it onto my half helmet strap and didn't like that setup, so decided to put the cardo into a pocket and to my surpise the bluetooth from 396 to cardo unit in my pocket works fine, the earbuds wire is a bit long though probably going to flap around in the wind , that's the only issue I see on this setup I have, I'm glad my helmet is back to normal now no more wires inside the helmet (finding places to stick wires inside that helmet was a problem) 8-)
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