Not Receiving Text Messages from iPhone

[Ron from BC]

Ron,

First, love Death Before Decaf.

Second, and this is only a wild guess from way out in the cheap seats, is Bluetooth on your GS in use and possibly interfering with your Cardo/XT/phone connections? Garmin devices have a long history of being fussy about Bluetooth.

-dan

Interesting point Dan, before embarking on this I had tried to get all these devices working together with the TFT and OMG that was a headache and I threw in the towel after a few days. When I started using the XT to get incoming calls and texts etc I did notice the Bluetooth icon on the TFT flashing. All the connections in the TFT settings have been deleted as well as any reference to them on the iPhone bluetooth settings so it 'shouldn't be a problem....I think.

[danham]

Interesting point Dan, before embarking on this I had tried to get all these devices working together with the TFT and OMG that was a headache and I threw in the towel after a few days. When I started using the XT to get incoming calls and texts etc I did notice the Bluetooth icon on the TFT flashing. All the connections in the TFT settings have been deleted as well as any reference to them on the iPhone bluetooth settings so it 'shouldn't be a problem....I think.

Does that flashing icon mean your GS is in pairing mode, by any chance. That would run a risk of interfering with other BT processes underway. Is there a way to fully disable BT on the bike, just to test?

-dan

[Ron from BC]

Interesting point Dan, before embarking on this I had tried to get all these devices working together with the TFT and OMG that was a headache and I threw in the towel after a few days. When I started using the XT to get incoming calls and texts etc I did notice the Bluetooth icon on the TFT flashing. All the connections in the TFT settings have been deleted as well as any reference to them on the iPhone bluetooth settings so it 'shouldn't be a problem....I think.

Does that flashing icon mean your GS is in pairing mode, by any chance. That would run a risk of interfering with other BT processes underway. Is there a way to fully disable BT on the bike, just to test?

-dan

I don't recall seeing that option during the hours I spent in that menu but I'll have another look.

[jfheath]

4. Now your last point you mentioned forgetting the pair connection between the iPhone and Edge? How are Voice Commands achieved for music etc without that connection. My media is on the phone.

That is a good question. With the XT at the centre of things everything is routed through the XT and that includes phone calls.
With the Phone routing music direct to the headset - I don't know where that leaves the XT. Try it and see. Let us know.

Your initial questions was to do with messages from the phone. That relies on the bluetooth link. When setting up the XT with BT I find that setting up the headphone first and making sure that you get sounds from the Zumo is a good first step. Then setting up the phone to the XT.

Often, one of these two fails to work. At which point you have to destroy all connections and repair them. This is likely because one of the units being paired has managed to pair with something else in the vicinity. Getting those two links sorted out first is essential. Trying to advise someone how to get something working is difficult if there is another connection that is screwing things up. With BT it is one step at a time.

You could then try adding the link that you wanted - eg phone music to the Cardo. Chances are that it will work - but think about what happens when your phone music is paired with something else. You will have to repair it with the Headset. By default, it pairs to phone #1 - which is the way it would have to be. That means pairing the XT as phone number 2 (because the phone has passed all of its functions to the XT to control).

Normally you would set the music source as being the phone. But now you have the phone paired to the headset. So what happens then, I do not know.

I DO know that there have been issues in the past when the phone has been busy trying to get Spotify data and then trying to relay it to the XT; also when the phone is busy trying to process the multitude of signals that it gets from passing vehicles. Some of the more basic functions seem to suffer.

My experience with this is very limited to a few years ago when I first got the XT and it had to use BT. I tried many different ways to get it to work, but decided that music over BT when navigating was a non-starter and I have never found the need to try use it since.

And I always destroy the BT connection between the Phone and the Edge. That is because of the above and also I have no interest in saying "Hey Google, play My playlist on Spotify".

If I am playing music on the XT's MP3 player, then that can be controlled by voice commands to the Cardo-

"Hey Cardo, Music On / Music Off / Next Track / Previous Track "

Those commands are also relayed to your phone to control whatever your phone is playing. So you can control it while it is playing, you cannot start playing something new. (You have to selecte the appropriate music source - BT or MP3 - on the XT)

I have never tried to see if "Hey Google" commands are also relayed. They ought to be, but I suspect not. Not without using the second channel.

I have seen one report that using the two channels as you suggest does work. I've not seen anybody agree and I have not tried, but I'd be interested to find out, if you would report back please !

[Ron from BC]

I tried configuring the setup using two channels and it didn't bear any fruit so I think I'm just going to keep it simple. This trip down the rabbit hole started out of a desire to be able to see incoming calls on a display, TFT or GPS. I don't normally talk on the phone while riding however when away on trips should my wife need to call for something important I'd like to know if it's just a spam call or one that I should be answering. The TFT configuration with my devices was my first choice due to the nice display however in order to get it to work I'd have to give up other features that I use frequently specifically Cardo Edge voice commands and reliable DMC comms with a riding partner. Apple and BMW point fingers at each other for taking responsibilities in this.

It was then off to Plan B and try achieving this via the XT. Pairing the iPhone and the Edge to the XT was straightforward and allowed me to see incoming calls in the XT preview window. I retained the ability to use Voice Commands for the Edge features with the exception of answering and ending calls. My options for that are either touch the answer button on the XT or Touch the Mobile button on the Edge. The only other issue was that the quality of the audio during the call was not as good however I'm working on that and I believe it can be solved.

When looking into Plan B I read of using the Garmin Drive app which could also give me Smart Notifications. I got greedy seeing this even though those features were of little interest to me but being retired and having too much time to ponder my navel I jumped in and we know how that ended.

I would be interested in knowing why those notifications aren't being pushed through despite having all the boxes ticked but it remains a puzzle.

Thanks to JHeath, Peabody, Dan et al who took the time to troubleshoot this and I will keep thinking about a solution but today it's nice out and I'm going for a ride with the visor open.

[jfheath]

I think that the reason that you cannot end calls by speaking into the cardo is that all phone functions are controlled by the XT - since you paired the XT to the phone. Hopefully you paired the headset to the XT as the second phone - not essential, it saves a lot of hassle when you want to use the Cardo App on your phone. But you want the headset to regard the XT as the phone - its not just a GPS.

When pairing the XT by BT - if you roll the wheel forward, it pairs as second phone and a voice message confirms this. If you roll it backwards it pairs the XT as a GPS. (But the XT isn't just a GPS - it becomes your phone). If you don't roll it either way, it pairs as the first phone. If you roll it the wrong way, just roll it the other way. Whatever it says last is how it has paired.



You need to allow the Drive App to send notifications to your phone. You get this option when first seeting up Drive. If you missed it, then you can alter the settings.

During setup you also get the option to enable storage. This is a minefield - which you may or may not wish to enter. If you say no, your routes will not synch with the Explore App. Yay. That's the option for me. It is easy to add later. It is impossible to remove without doing a full system reset of your XT. "Maybe Later" is the option that I suggest.

In Apple Settings / Apps / Drive there are various options that you can turn on or off. Allow Drive to Access ....

On the XT, Under Settings / Wireless Networks / Bluetooth Bluetooth your phone will be listed.

Under that is Smartphone Services It should say 'Connected'
Tap Smartphone Services to get the next menu

Smartphone services should be ticked and should say Connected

Tap Smart Notifications

This opens up a whole load of options that you can allow or not by ticking or removing the tick:
Other, Incoming calls, Missed Call, Voice Mail, Social Networks, Calendar, Email, New, Health & Fitness, Business and Finance, Location, Entertainment, Text Messsages

These options control which data is allowed through to the XT from your phone. You probably don't want all of them - I have highlighted some suggestions - but the smart move is to accept all of them to make sure that you get what you want. It is easy to decide - when you can't see the nav screen for all of the messages that keep popping up.

I have been able to reproduce this iPhone behaviour by pairing my XT to my ipad.


Phone calls - I can't reproduce this as I don't have an iphone. But somehwere, there should be a facility to automatically answer a call - possibly only if a BT device is connected. Ditto for Hanging up. On the Android, these options are in the settings available from the Phone app itself, rather than in Android settings.

@peobody wrote something earlier about this. Maybe he will chip in witht he stuff about iphone that I cannot comment on.

[Peobody]

Phone calls - I can't reproduce this as I don't have an iphone. But somehwere, there should be a facility to automatically answer a call - possibly only if a BT device is connected. Ditto for Hanging up. On the Android, these options are in the settings available from the Phone app itself, rather than in Android settings.

@peobody wrote something earlier about this. Maybe he will chip in witht he stuff about iphone that I cannot comment on.

I don't know of a way to accept or hangup calls automatically, only by touching the answer and hangup buttons on the XT. That said, I don't know whether the buttons on the headset work when it's paired to the XT instead of the phone. This is from the Packtalk Bold manual:

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